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and also, we will be bringing you inside the country engulfed in turmoil that you all voted the number one underreported story this week. and it may not be the one that you think it is. ta it means taking a break from the planing but we're going to do it, because you asked nicely. >> day 12, still no search for the plane. >> it is agonizing for the families of flight 370's passengers. in crimea, new signs of tension. >> pro-russian forces took over the main naval headquarters in crimea today. >> i think we're two steps from a cuban missile crisis situation with russia. >> let me tell you the single biggest lie in all of politics is that republicans are the party of the rich. chavez will become a saint. he continues bestowing blessings. >> things have gotten very tense now between the u.s. and russia. in fact, during a speech today, vladimir putin criticized the
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u.s. for always thinking that he's always right. then he went back to organize an election where you can't vote no. you either might now or later. today, 12 whole days into the search for flight 370, the fbi is stepping up its involvement in the investigation. the u.s. agency has copies of the pilot and the co-pilot's hard drives and it's also going to be reviewing the flight simulator after word that data from that simulator was deleted sometime in february. >> we're trying to offer whatever assistance that we can, but at this point, i don't think we have any theories that i could propound. >> and the international search effort continues to be marred by dysfunction. today, remember, 12 days in, the thai military shared for the
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first time that their government radar may have picked up the plane minutes after it vanished. so much for international cooperation. family members watching this search fall apart are beginning to fall apart themselves. >> she's yelling, "where is my son." several family members that day at that press conference in malaysia were physically pulled out, among them, two women who were carrying signs crying out against the dysfunction of this search. to look at the anguish and the fallout over this, and whether the international search effort is indeed falling to pieces, i've got two insiders here in the studio. former fbi agent don barelli, who has been with us before and is really in the trenches calling out for more action, and daniel rose, an aviation attorney and a military trained pilot. thank you so much, gentlemen,
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for joining. i'll start with you, don. when you hear that information about the radar and the fact that the thai government neglected to share this data, or didn't make public that they were sharing it, until this late point, what does that tell you given your own experiences working on international investigations about the willingtons share critical information in this kind of a search? >> you have to realize one thing, that air defense systems are part of any country's national defense strategy. those secret can be closely guarded. what their capabilities are, or if their capabilities are, in fact, lacking. in the u.s., we have an agreement where we share all that critical information with our strategic allies, the british, the canadians, australians, new zealand. but in that part of the region, they're not willing to share -- >> even for us, we would obviously not have that relationship with malaysia. >> well, it's country to country
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basis. we may not share everything at the same level with certain countries that we would with the brits, for example, but unless there's a reason not to share, we would likely want to share that information, particularly if it could lend some helpful information that would lead to what happened to this airplane. >> daniel, as a pilot, how important do you think this kind of radar data is? >> well, it's very important for ultimately trying to verify fundamentally one of two distinct paths this investigation can go to. either deliberate or mechanically induced failure. so depending on where the radar information indicates the plane, for instance, turned or which way it was heading or what altitude it was at or what air speed it was at could significantly inform which direction the investigation goes. >> and don, let's talk about the issue of the hard drives. we've all deleted data from our hard drives. leave the topic there. what do you think they're searching for in particular? how do they distinguish whether
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this is a benign removal of data from the flight simulators and what are they looking for exactly on the hard drives? >> well, i think they're looking for anything that might be nefarious. for one thing, if you look at was there some type of information where the pilot practiced this maneuver, this particular left turn that's become so critical in this investigation that was made right when the plane fell off the radar. so if that type of a flight pattern was on there, possibly that could lead to nefarious activity. it may be not. but they're looking for essentially anything that might indicate that this was -- that there was criminal intent there. not just the flight patterns, but they'll be looking for e-mails. they'll be looking for telephone records. they're going to be looking for anything. we live our lives online right now. and so the fact that, you know, some bit of -- some electronic bread crumb might be there to lend some information could be critical. >> and what do you think it means that they're waiting until this late date?
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12 days into this search and now the fbi is assisting with the hard drives? what does that mean? is it a sign of desperation? >> i don't think it's a sign of desperation. i think you've got the malaysian royal police that are doing their best. maybe they realize that they need more assistance at this point, that they don't have the capability to extract that information they may need. the fbi has some very strong analytical data forensic tools. this team, this computer analysis team, they'll tell you. i've talked to colleagues that work on this. there is no such thing as a deleted file. there's always a way to retrieve it. almost always a way to retrieve this information. but you need those sophisticated tools. >> important to remember that, folks. your deleted data is not safe. daniel, you're an aviation attorney. what kind of recourse to do the family members have in this case? >> that was just heart-wrenching. i just can't imagine anything worse than being in an aviation accident. the only thing worse is not really knowing where your loved ones are at this late stage.
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the recourse is really going to track the investigation. if the investigation goes in the direction of a deliberate act, that would trigger some different claims. primarily against the airline. if it goes in a mechanical direction, now you have to start looking at boeing, the manufacturer. so it's complicated, the fact that you don't have the black boxes, the wreckage itself is certainly going to impede the legal process, but at some point, you have to make a decision because some of these legal claims are triggered by statute of limitations, which means you have to bring a legal claim within two years. so you have to establish your case. you have to establish, unfortunately, the claim based on whether the person is dead or not and your loved one is dead or not and you have to go to court to do that and you have to fashion the legal claim and bring it within two years. so there are some issues down the road that are going to be critical for the families. >> all right. this continues to be fascinating stuff with some very big
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emotional stakes for a lot of people involved. thank you so much for that update. that was don barelli and dan rose. we will have them back on as this story develops. but first, coming up on "ronan farrow daily," vice president biden has issued a harsh warning at the naval headquarters in crimea. >> as long as russia continues on this dark path, they will face increasing political and economic isolation. >> the world is struggling to figure out this situation with ukraine. we're going to take a closer look at the psychology of vladimir putin with the great granddaughter of nikita krushev. details on how one senior official in the republican party is telling women to get up and be assertive. stay with us for that.
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my mother was born in lithuan lithuania. the baltic nations were held captive for decades by the soviets. so when we talk about small nations at the mercy of moscow, my family knows all about it. and when putin tries to show this growth in empire by invading the republic of georgia, or by ukraine, you bet we're going to speak out, and if that makes him angry, so be it. >> that was senator dick durbin talking earlier this morning about proposed sanctions personally threatened against him from russia and against several colleagues. we are all trying to figure out at this point what is going
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through vladimir putin's mind. today, a day after announcing he would make the crimea region a part of russia, he is continuing to tighten his grip and flummox the international community. russian forces, remember, seized control of the headquarters of the ukrainian navy there in crimea. and vice president joe biden is touring eastern europe in countries trying to ease jittery allies that are similarly confused by putin's actions. here just hours ago is biden. >> russia has chosen to respond with military aggression, a referendum rejected by virtually the entire world. illegal efforts to annex crimea. and now reports of armed attacks against ukrainian military personnel and installations in crimea. i want to make it clear, we stand resolutely with our baltic allies in support of ukrainian people and against russian aggression.
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>> in many ways, this story is about understanding the workings of a seemingly irrational, certainly unpredictable mind, vladimir putin's. last week, u.s. officials were confused when putin actually refused to take a call from his own foreign minister, sergei lavrov. can you imagine if john kerry just shrugged and said sorry, i can't get barack on the blower. joining me is someone with a very close link to russia's identity crisis, that is nina khrushcheva, granddaughter of nikita khrushchev. thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you. >> so, professor, tell me, when you heard that speech from vladimir putin where he announced the annexation of crimea and you heard him lash out at your great-grandfather, who he said handed over crimea like apotatoes, what's your response? >> it's completely not unexpected. i knew he would find somebody to
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blame. in putin's mind, which i find very puzzling that you guys here in the west find puzzling, because he's quite predictable in many ways, at least for me. i haven't been wrong about his actions so far. he needs somebody to blame. he's a uniter of many lands, that's how he sees himself. nikita khrushchev gave away that land from the crimean control and putin thinks it's a personal insult to the russians. >> your great-grandfather's ghost is continuing to in a sense spar with stalin, revealing the depths of stalin's crimes against humanity. putin may consider stalin shotgun of a hero. do you think that's at the heart of this matter? >> i think it's not just stalin that considered him a hero. he wouldn't go out and say that, with statues put around russia of stalin during putin's presidency.
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moscow subway has now stalin's name on its walls. but it's all the great leaders. the uniters of russian empire. it's ivan the terrible. peter the great. it's stalin. and that's how putin sees himself. not necessarily as just one leader, but all of those, who instead of giving away territorieterritory s, put them back together. >> as we talked about eastern european countries are increasingly jittery about these moves into ukraine from russia. do you think they should be? poland, for instance, was conquered three times in its history by russia. >> absolutely. i don't think putin would go further than that. i actually would like to take him at his word, although it's not worth much. but i think in this particular case, just because he cannot really afford serious, serious wars, and being a pariah on the international stage, because he likes the western onlookers. he doesn't want to be kim jong-un, he wants to be a partner, so to speak. so they do have the right to be very legitimately be afraid of
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that. but on the other hand, i think this particular case, at least for now, he is not going to go further than he has already. >> that's an optimistic take. not everyone on the hill agrees right now. actually, i think we have some audio of senator bob menendez of new jersey who just weighed in on the targeted sanctions by putin. he spoke to andrea mitchell and he talked about how maybe these fears are legitimate. take a listen. >> the russians also cannot believe that they can annex properties, territories of countries without real consequences or putin will calibrate where else he will go to next. >> we hear politicians here in the states sort of expressing fear about larger ambitions. you sort of cautioning that maybe he won't go any farther. what do you think it is that vladimir putin wants? >> well, first of all, i don't disagree with senator menendez. he may go further, i just don't think he's going to do it now. they're very careful now in how
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they are even going into other parts of eastern ukraine, other parts of ukraine. so so far, it's contained in crimea. i think that's what we are dealing with right now. but what's going on through putin's mind, and yesterday was an amazing, brilliant speech. i think george orwell is really just so jealous, the whole devil's speak that putin played yesterday. it's an act against western double standards. and that's what putin starts with. that is also -- i mean, i love how he twisted the ukrainian-russia relations. because originally, it was kiev in russia, the ukrainians original to the russians. but he said it's us. we are the russians of ukraine. so that's another really interesting twist. and through his mind, what always goes through his mind, that he is a great man representing a great country. whatever it takes. >> do you think that the sanctions on vladimir putin and his inner circle will work? >> i think his inner circle is terrified of that.
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i mean, they can say it's a joke and whatnot. but i think they are, because what will happen under vladimir putin in almost 15 years now, he made his nation rich. he used the oil prices to actually make the nation rich. so people do not want the borders closed altogether. so in order to really hit him with sanctions further and further, maybe for the whole country, and that will take him out. >> all right. that is a fascinating take. thank you so much. that was nina khrushchev, great granddaughter of nikita khrushchev. thank you so much for your time. >> thank you. elsewhere in the relations of superpowers, michelle obama is taking her children and her mom on a trip to china that begins today. the white house is billing the visit as "people to people exchange focus." it emphasizes cultural and educational exchange. but the visit is arousing criticism. the fact remains, a human rights report, china is an
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authoritarian state that forces assembly and religion, prohibits independent labor unions and maintains party control over all judicial institutions. we're going to keep you posted as that trip goes on. but first, up next on "ronan farrow daily," the story that you told us you wanted to know about most this week. that is the venezuelan government cracking down on student protesters. we bring you the latest on the violence next. when you have diabetes like i do, you want a way to help minimize blood sugar spikes. support heart health. and your immune system. now there's new glucerna advance with three benefits in one. [ male announcer ] new glucerna advance. from the brand doctors recommend most. feeding your lawn need not be so difficult neighbors. get a load of this bad boy. whoa. this snap spreader system from scotts is snap-crackin' simple -- just snap, lock, and go.
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welcome back, everybody. on friday, we asked all of you to vote on what you thought the most underreported story this week was. with our #rfdunder. the number one response, this is interesting, the violence gripping venezuela right now. and you're right, it is an important story and too much of
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the media is ignoring this. so let's take a deeper look. this week, hugo chavez's hand-picked successor is sending security forces to crack down on protesters. for the past month, violent protests have engulfed this country. they have left at least 29 people dead. largely a middle class revolved against economic mismanagement. but lately, protests have been waning and the government's response has gotten more violent and more hardlined. the question is, is this a turning point? will the crackdowns work and kill this movement finally, or are we going to see a continued people taking to the streets and facing a crackdown from the police? we're going to get an insider's take from venezuela's former minister of trade. thank you so much for joining us. >> glad to be here. thanks for inviting me. >> first of all, what do you think is really at the heart of these protests? why are people taking to the streets? >> 15 years of mismanagement, 15
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years of corruption. now this is a country that has the highest inflation rate in the world. one of the most murderous countries in the world. the homicide rates are very, very high. and the shortages of everything. you know, from basic medicines to basic staples for a daily diet are not available. and this is hurting everyone. and this is happening in a country that is very wealthy. venezuela has the largest oil reserves in the world. and so, you know, you would expect that a country with such wealth would not be in such dire economic situations. the country's deeply polarized, and as i said, corruption is rife. shortages are everywhere. >> and who do you think is to blame for that? the mismanagement you're talking about, where did that come from? is that chavez? >> well, the only data that we
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need to pay attention to is that this is a government that has been 15 years in power. chavez was in power until last year, and then he as you said, he hand-picked this president, and there was an election, he won and continued. and what happens in democracy is not just what happens in elections, but what happens in between elections. what happened in between elections in these 15 years is deep concentration of power, and an undermining of all the checks and balances for democracy. president chavez and the current president have a blank check. they can use the money, the oil money in any way they want without any accountability, any transparency, without any control. politically, they have taken over institutions. they control the supreme court. they control the electoral tribunal, the congress. there is no institutions really. >> the control of the oil sector that you mentioned is so important. this is an incredibly
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resource-rich country. so the opportunities are as present there as the perils. you're in touch with who's on the ground. who do you think will prevail? will he be able to quash these protests? >> well, we need to take the long view. this is not a comfortable time for dictators. people in the streets have shown in the arab spring, in ukraine, in other places, in turkey, people in the streets can change things. the venezuelans until now have shown great resilience. they're still there every day. they come out and they know they're going to be beaten up and tortured and detained and repressed in veritable ways. and yet surprisingly, every day they go out trying to recover some of the freedom they have lost and try to bring back some sanity to the way in which this country has been managed. >> the other surprising thing is they're still taking to the streets on the one side, but
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also despite these crackdowns, there's still strong support for meduro. why do you think that is? >> well, chavez before him has taken all of the oil, a big chunk of the oil proceeds, and created a direct cash and destroyed private sector jobs. so it is almost impossible to find the job in the private sector these days in venezuela. so you need to depend either on government handouts or in government jobs. and you would not go get those jobs over the handouts unless you are enthusiastic and proven supporter of what they call the revolution. so not having the support of the government, or being perceived as someone that is not in favor of the government can have catastrophic effects for a family. because it will essentially take out all of its sources of income. and the ability to make a living daily. >> all right. moises naim, thank you so much. we appreciate your joining us.
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tomorrow, we're actually going to bring you an exclusive inside look at venezuela's militants who themselves are defenders of radical socialism, and fall into that category of people who are sticking by this administration. hardly anyone ever gets a close up look at these armed motorcycle gangs, most extreme of that supporting faction, but we are going to take you there thanks to our collaboration with the data mining start-up evocative. we're going to give you a quick preview right now. take a look. ♪ >> many of us that belong to the collective groups have been wrongly made or represented as assassins, that we are violent, that we are like guerrillas,
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terrorists. there are a few that need to be armed. we need to be prepared for an attack. but we retaliate only in the defense of our reform and what our communities and government are trying to establish for us. >> and we will bring you on that journey inside the world of those paramilitary groups in venezuela tomorrow. first, still ahead today on "ronan farrow daily," the equal pay battle in texas all started with the supporter of the republican candidate for governor making this comment, listen. >> we don't believe the lilly ledbetter act is what's going to solve that problem for women. women are extremely busy. >> now we have more news out of races in texas that are touching on this issue. we will take a look at the impact of that closely watched race with an interesting bipartisan panel you will not want to miss next. stay with us.
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welcome back to "rf daily." my friends, i am so excited about today's panel. got a little right, got a little left, got a whole lot of love. we're going to delve into one of today's big news items, equal pay. breaking news to bring you. a spokesman for the republican texas attorney general greg abbott says he will not sign a proposed equal pay law known as the lilly ledbetter act. abbott is running for governor and this debate was sparked on monday when the head of a women's group supporting him said that women are "too busy to worry about equal pay legislation." adding fuel to the fire yesterday, the executive director of the texas republican party said equal pay laws aren't the answer, being assertive is. >> men are better negotiators. i would encourage women instead of pursuing the courts for action to become better negotiators. >> on the daily rundown this morning, rnc chair responded to the criticism, sort of.
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>> both sides -- you know, one side has a monopoly on these kinds of comments. when joe biden said whatever he said, you know, break you from these chains. listen, he's the vice president of the united states of america. when you're pointing out some staffer at a state gop office. i mean, the fact is -- >> executive director. it's the person running the state party in texas. >> and i brought up the vice president of the united states, chuck, all right? >> what? let's get back to the issue at hand here, equal pay. this is a real challenge worth discussing. in texas, women make $35,000 a year, while men make on average 45,000. that's a big gulf. across the nation, women working full-time are still paid just 77% of what men are paid. joining me now is michael steele, my friend, my msnbc analyst extraordinaire, and former rnc chair. also ann lewis, wonderful former
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communications director for president clinton. thank you both for joining me here. this is an important issue. obviously some very intense, very different takes from the two parties on this. i'll start with you, michael. conservatives in this instance are arguing that equal pay laws aren't necessary because they essentially enable lawsuits and log up the legal system. how widely held do you think that view is within the party? >> i think it's very widely held. i think it's not just held within the party, but certainly held within a lot of businesses that are run by both democrats and republicans around the country. it's a legitimate business concern. what the impact of a given law will have on the bottom line. does this lead to additional litigation down the road? does it tie up the works internally for the organization in terms of regulatory and other compliance requirements? so there are legitimate concerns there. i don't think any of that, however, negates the underlying idea that there are still discrepancies that exist for a multitude of reason, some good,
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some not very good, between what women are paid and what men are paid. i think the articulation of that by the party so far has been woeful. again, we fall back on the objective point about what it costs. well, what is the cost to a woman who's trying to raise a family, as my mom did, working a minimum wage job, when the opportunity to make more money should be afforded her just as any other opportunity. >> ann, do you think it's even possible to support equal pay but not support equal pay legislation as some of these texas republicans are saying? >> well, thank you first for the opportunity. let me be clear. i'm not too busy to say that women deserve equal pay. >> noted. >> women's work is equal. and i don't know of women here or in texas who would say i'm too busy to worry about what's in my paycheck. this is a bottom line issue. you've already given us some of those numbers. second fact, the lilly ledbetter act is national law. it was the first bill that
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president obama signed. he talked about it during the '08 campaign. he said he was for it. he came in, he signed it. what greg abbott, who is now the candidate for governor of texas has done, is he went to court as attorney general and said the lilly ledbetter act, which is an enforcement of equal pay, the lilly ledbetter act should not work in texas for women who are employed by texas a&m. you have women who work for a university. they're employees of the state of texas. because of greg abbott going to court, they are not covered by the lilly ledbetter act. i think that's wrong. i think these women deserve full legal protection. wendy davis, the democratic candidate, has in fact co-sponsored a bill that would ensure that the lilly ledbetter act is enforced in texas. that is one of the simple steps we can take to get to that place that michael was talking about where women and men are getting equal pay for their families. >> and just for people tuning in at home, the lilly ledbetter act is related to the statute of
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limitations on when women can bring suit for equal pay. previously, they could only sue during a statute of limitations that started with the initial decision that led to the paid discrepancy under the lilly ledbetter act, they have a statute of limitations that starts after the last paycheck, correct, ann? >> that's exactly right. and the reason that became so important, there really is a lilly ledbetter, by the way. she is with us today and she can talk to you about how important this is. she worked in a factory for 20 years, and learned -- >> the goodyear factory, right? >> the goodyear factory in alabama. and learned because one of her male co-workers slipped her the information that she had been getting paid less than the men around her. she goes to court because we do have an equal pay law on the books. and goes all the way through to the supreme court, and the supreme court throws it out and says well, you should have sued within six months of first getting unequal pay. well, many women will tell you they have no way of knowing what
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other people are earning. companies will actually fire you if people talk about their pay. >> before we part ways, i want to pull back to the bigger national picture, because this isn't just happening in texas. in minnesota last week, republican state representative andrea kiefer also got a lot of press for saying, "we are losing the respect that we so dearly want in the workplace by bringing up all these special bills for women and almost making us look like whinewhiner" is there evidence that bills per paining to women's rights weaken their cause? what do you think of that quote? >> no, i don't. i think it goes back to the underlying problem that many in the party seem to have when it come to these issues, understanding the sensibilities and the realities of families and individuals who are trying to make it in this new economy that we've had since 2008 where you still have unemployment of those who lost their jobs in 2008, and that includes a lot of women who are more than 50% of
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our work force. i think there's a legitimate point, though, that's been made by the center for american progress, where one of their economists testified about the fact that yeah, women do have a disadvantage when it comes to negotiating, because they've not really been put in a position to negotiate for higher wages. so that also has an impact on the overall ability for women to get -- to make a higher wage. i think the more we put emphasis on that in positioning and empowering women to do that in the workplace, the better off we'll be longer-term and the less we'll need for a lot of laws that some folks may seem to be extraneous. >> i think laws that ensure equality and laws that say women's work is equal to men is good for everybody. and as speaker pelosi -- excuse me, minority leader nancy pelosi has said, and as president obama has said, when women succeed, america succeeds. >> i think that is an excellent note to part ways on. although parting is sweet sorrow in this case. i think that this actually illustrates there are really
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strong voices on both sides of the aisle. it's going to be important that that's the case as republicans try to reach out to women coming into this upcoming election cycle. and i don't doubt that we'll have you both back on as that all unfolds. thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you. >> michael, stick with us, because coming up next, we are going to talk about this. republicans and democrats get past their rhetoric to help the 600,000 americans in desperate need of shelter. that is our call to action right after the break. on my journey a, i've learned that when you ask someone in texas if they want "big" savings on car insurance, it's a bit like asking if they want a big hat... ...'scuse me... ...or a big steak... ...or big hair... i think we have our answer. geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance.
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welcome back to the show. this week's call to action, we've been bringing you different angles each day on the crisis of homelessness in our cities across america. today we're going to take a look at the politics of homelessness. president obama has weighed in on this issue just this very month, proposing a new budget that would provide $2.4 billion for what's called homeless
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assistance. those are pieces of funding that would support both permanent supportive housing units and also maintain 330,000 federally funded emergency shelter beds nationwide. the budget has little chance of passing the house. it's more a statement than a solution. meanwhile, on the republican side, congressman paul ryan has been in the news a lot for attributing american poverty to "a tail spin of culture in our inner cities, in particular, of men not working and just generations of men not even thinking about working or learning the value and the culture of work." he later called the comments "inarticulate." but it's important to note here, ryan has also taken his party's lead on trying to productively tackle poverty in america. seriously, we want to highlight this. too few voices in both parties are talking about this issue. and he is. he complains of a broken social welfare system, but he also actually revealed some potential common ground with democrats in his efforts to use tax policy to
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get people back to work. ryan's actually doing three listening sessions with constituents back home in wisconsin today where this issue could come up. so joining me now again for a look at politics and homelessness is michael steele, msnbc political analyst and former rnc chair. welcome back. it's been way too long. >> good to be back. >> mr. steele, my friend, paul ryan has a lot of complaints about president obama's social welfare policies, but critics say that they're not specific enough. and it is true, when i listen to those remarks, i can't really wrap my arms around specific policies and what he would do to change them a lot of the time. so be precise here, what do you feel are the main republican party platform issues with obama's policies on this front? >> the number one issue is that obama proposed them, and as long as that is sort of the stumbling block out of the gate, there will be very little done. as you noted at the beginning of the segment, what's been proposed by the president's
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budget won't even make the light of day in the house. in fact, very little will get done this year on any of these issues, whether it's job creation or tackling homelessness. because our system has become polarized by electoral politics. and and all that that means. so i applaud both paul ryan and the president for at least making the statement. but i think the bolder step would be the actual proposals that begin to define the parameters of a conversation that the country is long overdue for that talk about both tax incentives but also incentivizing individuals and others within communities to create a broader supportive network so that you just don't fall into the trap of section 8 housing all over again, or relegating people off to shelters because that's the safe out. i think something more substantive in community development projects and programs working with state governors is really the beginning of that solution and taking the partisanship off the table completely.
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>> very quickly, one potential area of bipartisanship is actually both ryan and president obama have proposed support for the earned income tax credit, which is a way to get some support to the working poor. do you think emphasize more to bridge some of the -- >> absolutely. it begins to take those steps towards homeownership which is ultimately how you begin to battle homelessness. when a family that once owned a home, lost their home as a result of the 2008 collapse, it is now trying on move back into their home and move out of shelters and move out of trailers, i think that those types of incentives are the kind of institutions we should be looking at thank you so much, michael steele. >> you got it. one of the big challenges that both paul ryan and president obama's budget seeks to address is this issue of the working poor. the people who are struggling to find jobs, have jobs but they are still slipping into the icy waters of poverty every day p.m. later this week, we are going to look past the politics we just
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talked about and talk directly to those affected by the policies. we interviewed from the new york's working homeless to get their perspective on this debate. >> what do you say to people who say this is about bad work ethics or about laziness? >> i have been working ever since i was 18 years old. i have worked two jobs. many times. i have never been in had situation before. it is nothing i was looking forward to. nothing that i thought would ever happen to me. >> very different side of the debate. stay with our call to action this week on surprising insights of people behind the story. don't forget our call to action this week, we want you to call your local city hall and ask how many emergency shelter beds they have. send us your responses via twitter, facebook, e-mail. how was practice? ugh. that bad? i dropped 2 balls, mom. eye on the ball!
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earlier in the show we brought thank you latest on the violent protests in venezuela. you see the dramatic pictures there. we brought it to you because you told us it was the story you thought undercover in this country now. we are asking you to chime in once again on the underreported stories you want to hear more about. send us your pictures by tweeting under the hash tag rfd under. we will give thank you credit next week. that wraps things up for today's edition of "rfd." the time i savor, "the reid report" with may colleague joy reid. joy, my friend, you never call. you never write. >> we have to hang out. we definitely do. it has been too long. >> will do. >> thanks. appreciate it. great show. next on "the reid report," new controversy over the stand your ground law in practice. angela cory, the woman in charge
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of prosecuting several high-profile cases is e-mailing lawmakers as they are about to debate a big change in the law. i will talk to a lawmaker that got the mail and says she off ended by it. we are all over it next on "the reid report."
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pradaxa side effects include indigestion, stomach pain, upset, or burning. if you or someone you love has afib not caused by a heart valve problem... ...ask your doctor about reducing the risk of stroke with pradaxa. mnchlgts happy hump day. this the "the reid report." i'm joy reid. here is what we have planned. in a moment, the florida stand your ground story lots of people are talking about. florida prosecutor angela cory sending an e-mail to lawmakers as they get ready to consider big changes to the law. the crisis in crimea. will more sanctioning be enough to deter russia for annexing more of ukraine or other done reese? we start with the latest news on missing malaysian flight 370. official miskuala lu.
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the deletion february 3, more an month before the flight vanish. one more baffling detail to the case. also, nbc news is reporting that fbi agents have received copies of the hard drive from computedners the two pilots' homes for analysis. nbc news also quotes sources who say it appears likely that orders for the plane to change course were programmed from the cockpit before the last report from a data communications system transmitted. that would further indicate that the course change was programmed before the co-pilot's last radio transmission, all right, good night. aviation analysts caution and may well be legitimate reasons for change. we will have more on flight 370 later including how family members of missing passengers trade to storm today's news conference. now to the story you will see first here on msnbc only on "the reid report." yesterday state attorney angela

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